Can you use autoregressive diffusion to generate market data?

(blog.janestreet.com)

28 points | by jsomers 12 hours ago

5 comments

  • armcat 2 minutes ago
    The real story here is this wonderful exposition in applying diffusion models to a time series data that is neither discrete nor continuous. It’s always fascinating to see diffusion models applied in different scenarios, same with diffusion language models.
  • stult 32 minutes ago
    There is no model of the market that can remain stably accurate because the market will inevitably incorporate the insights of any model that is accurate until those insights are no longer accurate
    • tylerflick 21 minutes ago
      AKA the efficient markets hypotheses.
  • dzink 39 minutes ago
    The market has modes and reverts behavior when it switches them. Thus happy bouncy becomes hammered stammered. The prediction models fall hook and sinker for that.
  • reedf1 43 minutes ago
    No
  • TheOtherHobbes 1 hour ago
    "Past performance is not indicative of future results."
    • socializer 3 minutes ago
      You hear that often, but if you squint your eyes, the entire idea of index funds is just that: they outperformed stock-pickers in the past, so you should put money into them to get higher returns in the future. There's no fundamental index fund investment thesis other than "past performance is indicative of future returns".

      That thesis is at least to some extent self-fulfilling, because there's so much money flowing into index funds that prices of all the underlying assets keep moving up, and there's probably not enough money trying to bid against that / arbitrage the excesses away.

      A similar thing could happen with AI. Markets are efficient only if the world isn't in some sort of a trance.